Comments on: Here We Go Again… http://www.thehobokenblog.com/2007/03/12/here-we-go-again/ Making Hoboken Better One Reader At A Time Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:59:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Darry WOOD http://www.thehobokenblog.com/2007/03/12/here-we-go-again/#comment-904 Darry WOOD Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:34:06 +0000 http://www.thehobokenblog.com/2007/03/12/here-we-go-again/#comment-904 89 Responses to “Pedicabs - Good or Bad?”Pages: « 1 2 3 4 [5] Show All 81. bartmann81 | April 7th, 2007 at 8:49 am Quote Shame shame shame. What a hostile forum this turned out to be. Just 2 briefly voice “MY” opinion on the principles behind this topic. I “personally” could NOT care less about pedicabs, BUT, im not going to knock them. Live and let live, isnt that what life is about? Capitalism? Free enterprise? This company, im sure invested a lot of time and money into chasing their American dream, LET THEM! They have every American right to. “Certain” people are crying and causing a stink about safety issues. Are you serious? EVERY enterprise in America, and the rest of the world, at that matter, is a safety issue. Every plane, train and automobile that has ever been built is a “safety issue.” That is where LAWS come into play, and help minimize, not outlaw/ban, the safety risks. They do so by enforcing speed limits, require seatbelts, require multi-safety inspection checks, etc., etc., etc. The list for safety risks that operate in this world can go on forever, including the fast food industries which contribute to many health sicknesses that ultimately lead to DEATH. You cannot “BAN” the fast food places for having such a safety issue. People are allowed to make their own decisions. If they feel they are not safe on a pedicab, DON’T RIDE on one. It’s as simple as that. I don’t feel safe being on a plane, so I don’t fly! I do not, and should not have to protest against planes. I think I made my point clear on the bogus safety issues, and did so without having to mention “cigarettes.” Imagine that. Now to touch up on the bogus congestion issues. Pedicabs will cause more congestion in the town of Hoboken? Once again, are you people serious? Ladies and gentlemen, is that the best you can come up with? If you people where that overly concerned about congestion, where were you when they proposed to have multi-residential complexes built, ALL OVER your small little town, which along with that, will come 100’s of gas guzzling vehicles? I don’t think I have to go any further into that topic. I think I clearly made my point on the bogus congestion issues that “certain” people are so concerned about. Once again, I am not for, and definitely not against pedicabs, but the whole principle of people being so rude and intentionally harmful to a young company that is not even on their feet yet, is down right disgusting. There is absolutely no reason why people in this land of opportunity should be forcing an abortion on a company that is thriving to live and survive! These are my personal opinions on this topic. Wishing all you folks, a very merry and prosperous life. Sorry for taking up too much space. Take care. Just your average Joe. 82. cdezel | April 7th, 2007 at 8:53 am Quote Dr. Midnight, I am by no means intending to be rude, and if I appear to be, please forgive me. Please tell me that you just did not insinuate that the pedicab industry should be punished and outlawed because of all the blatant LAW BREAKING motorists you mentioned, which im sure include the taxi cab drivers. No offense, but I sure hope people that read your post, have a lot more sense then to give your statement more than a seconds worth of recognition. It is a totally absurd statement to make, and should hold absolutely no weight. Im sure if you take a second to think about what you stated, you will realize that I am right. 83. hbknkid | April 7th, 2007 at 9:02 am Quote I am a resident of Hoboken and supporter of Pedicabs. I have two chidren 3 and 7 and I really do care for thier future. Peedicabs offer a green alternative to automobiles. I am all for it. This is what I have to say. I CHALLENGE ANYONE ON THIS FORUM : To bring any evidence then the five articles that are so often circulated through the hands of people who oppose pedicabs that show Pedicabs to be a documented contributer to congestion and traffic , furthermore I CHAALLENGE ANYONE to show me evidence of a fatality cause by or on a pedicab. Happy hunting because you will not. On the contrary you will find more evidence that these work in evry communtiy they are currently operating in. Denver, Dallas, Tennesee, New York, San Diego , Boston , Detroit and I can go on. DId you know that most of these cities have sought after pedicabs for a means of a solution to aleviate traffic? and double parked vehicles. I leave you this to ponder.Have a beautiful morning fellow Hobokeners and a happy blessed Easter. 84. sah | April 7th, 2007 at 10:21 am Quote Sure, pedicabs are enviro-friendly and all that, but they’re not right for every town or city. Big cities have wide open avenues with lots of space. Hoboken has small narrow side streets and it’s one main avenue is a congested nightmare. For all of those who think this is such a great idea, try riding a bicyle around Hoboken for a day. I use my bike to ride to and from the PATH every single day and the ONLY safe place for a rider is on the sidewalk. The side streets are too narrow and one open car door and you’re dead. And Washington Street on the street itself is absolutely impossible. Between the buses and the double-parkers, the street simply isn’t wide enough to accommodate everyone. If we can’t even properly accommodate cyclists, I don’t see how Pedicabs, which are even wider, are workable. 85. bartmann81 | April 7th, 2007 at 10:44 am Quote So Sah what you are saying is they should ban all bike riding in Hoboken , and that because people who break the law and double park should continue to take up the space that potentially can bring and alternative transportation service to Hoboken. Ok your point is well made. 86. bartmann81 | April 7th, 2007 at 10:47 am Quote Ps so because all the other elements in the city of Hoboken are unsafe that gives the town the right to ban something that has nothing but a safe record. Thankyou for being another person in this forum for reinforcing all the negatives that Hoboken has continued to allow over the years. 87. Cartman | April 7th, 2007 at 12:19 pm Quote You are forgetting the real point is. Has the streets reached max usage? Maybe tear some buildings down to make more parking lots. So….. all the businesses can’t have any more people to at their restaurants, stores, offices because there is to many cars, no parking, no pedicabs, and it’s just way too unsafe…… Just fold up your downtown tear down all the buildings that make it special, and build strip malls with only drive-ups. Is that a hole in your foot? Wake up City and think who do you serve the people and the stores, restaurants and the businesses? Pedicabs WILL add to what makes you special and WILL bring people. Maybe there be less cars, more business and more tax for the city to do good things to make better to live and shop there. Block off the narrow streets that are unsafe, plant trees, get pedicabs, and make it a walking mall like forward thinking cities are doing. Get out of your CAR. I bet you are some of the same people who complain at gas at over three a gallon. To much pollution too. You must be a urban planner from the 70’s. MORE cars wider highways, more strip malls, teardown the old buildings and build shopping centers. It does NOT work. I bet you want a Wal-Mart too… 88. mshellhbkn | April 7th, 2007 at 1:16 pm Quote HELLO MR. HOBOKEN411 DO YOU REALIZE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? PRECISELY EVEN MORE REASON TO PERMIT THESE BICYCLES. YOU AND MOST OTHERS IN HERE CONTINUE TO EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT ” THE SIDE STREETS ARE TO NARROW FOR THESE BIKES AND IT WILL SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC. SO BASICALLY ITS PERFECT. AS A COMMUNITY WE SHOULD NOT PROMOTE FAST DRIVING OR SPEEDING ON THOSE BLOCKS . PEDICABS WILL ENSURE THAT THE TRAFFIC IS KEPT AT AN APPROPRIATE FLOW . I KNOW I WOULD FEEL A WHOLE LOT SAFER KNOWING THAT ON A FEW BLOCKS, A FEW TIMES A DAY THAT BECAUSE OF THE FEW BIKES THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO BRING TO OUR CITY THAT OUR STREETS WILL BE THAT MUCH SAFER. I MEAN ARE YOU SAYING WE SHOULD ALLOW THOSE NARROW BLOCKS TO BE EMPTY SO THAT AUTOMOBILES AND TAXIS ALIKE CAN REACH OPTIMUM SPEED ENDANGERING OUR CHILDREN AND OUR ELDERS . MY FATHER WHO HAS LIVED IN HOBOKEN FOR 59 YEARS USED TO WALK TO CARLOS BAKERY REGULARY AND USED TO WALK TO THE PARK AND NOW BECAUSE HE HAS A HARD TIME WALKING DUE TO ARTHRITIS HE SAID HE WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET A FREE RIDE TO THE PARK. 89. hbknkid | April 7th, 2007 at 1:21 pm Quote Get a load of this. This is direct news coming from the council. Hoboken is far to congested to permit a 48 inch wide bike on its street , but there not to congested to sell 5 to 10 more taxi medallions that cost hundred of thousands of dollars. Now this is starting to make sense. Something to ponder. 89 Responses to “Pedicabs - Good or Bad?”Pages: « 1 2 3 4 [5] Show All

81. bartmann81 | April 7th, 2007 at 8:49 am Quote
Shame shame shame. What a hostile forum this turned out to be. Just 2 briefly voice “MY” opinion on the principles behind this topic. I “personally” could NOT care less about pedicabs, BUT, im not going to knock them. Live and let live, isnt that what life is about? Capitalism? Free enterprise? This company, im sure invested a lot of time and money into chasing their American dream, LET THEM! They have every American right to. “Certain” people are crying and causing a stink about safety issues. Are you serious? EVERY enterprise in America, and the rest of the world, at that matter, is a safety issue. Every plane, train and automobile that has ever been built is a “safety issue.” That is where LAWS come into play, and help minimize, not outlaw/ban, the safety risks. They do so by enforcing speed limits, require seatbelts, require multi-safety inspection checks, etc., etc., etc. The list for safety risks that operate in this world can go on forever, including the fast food industries which contribute to many health sicknesses that ultimately lead to DEATH. You cannot “BAN” the fast food places for having such a safety issue. People are allowed to make their own decisions. If they feel they are not safe on a pedicab, DON’T RIDE on one. It’s as simple as that. I don’t feel safe being on a plane, so I don’t fly! I do not, and should not have to protest against planes. I think I made my point clear on the bogus safety issues, and did so without having to mention “cigarettes.” Imagine that. Now to touch up on the bogus congestion issues. Pedicabs will cause more congestion in the town of Hoboken? Once again, are you people serious? Ladies and gentlemen, is that the best you can come up with? If you people where that overly concerned about congestion, where were you when they proposed to have multi-residential complexes built, ALL OVER your small little town, which along with that, will come 100’s of gas guzzling vehicles? I don’t think I have to go any further into that topic. I think I clearly made my point on the bogus congestion issues that “certain” people are so concerned about. Once again, I am not for, and definitely not against pedicabs, but the whole principle of people being so rude and intentionally harmful to a young company that is not even on their feet yet, is down right disgusting. There is absolutely no reason why people in this land of opportunity should be forcing an abortion on a company that is thriving to live and survive! These are my personal opinions on this topic. Wishing all you folks, a very merry and prosperous life. Sorry for taking up too much space. Take care. Just your average Joe.

82. cdezel | April 7th, 2007 at 8:53 am Quote
Dr. Midnight, I am by no means intending to be rude, and if I appear to be, please forgive me. Please tell me that you just did not insinuate that the pedicab industry should be punished and outlawed because of all the blatant LAW BREAKING motorists you mentioned, which im sure include the taxi cab drivers. No offense, but I sure hope people that read your post, have a lot more sense then to give your statement more than a seconds worth of recognition. It is a totally absurd statement to make, and should hold absolutely no weight. Im sure if you take a second to think about what you stated, you will realize that I am right.

83. hbknkid | April 7th, 2007 at 9:02 am Quote
I am a resident of Hoboken and supporter of Pedicabs. I have two chidren 3 and 7 and I really do care for thier future. Peedicabs offer a green alternative to automobiles. I am all for it. This is what I have to say. I CHALLENGE ANYONE ON THIS FORUM : To bring any evidence then the five articles that are so often circulated through the hands of people who oppose pedicabs that show Pedicabs to be a documented contributer to congestion and traffic , furthermore I CHAALLENGE ANYONE to show me evidence of a fatality cause by or on a pedicab. Happy hunting because you will not. On the contrary you will find more evidence that these work in evry communtiy they are currently operating in. Denver, Dallas, Tennesee, New York, San Diego , Boston , Detroit and I can go on. DId you know that most of these cities have sought after pedicabs for a means of a solution to aleviate traffic? and double parked vehicles. I leave you this to ponder.Have a beautiful morning fellow Hobokeners and a happy blessed Easter.

84. sah | April 7th, 2007 at 10:21 am Quote
Sure, pedicabs are enviro-friendly and all that, but they’re not right for every town or city. Big cities have wide open avenues with lots of space. Hoboken has small narrow side streets and it’s one main avenue is a congested nightmare.

For all of those who think this is such a great idea, try riding a bicyle around Hoboken for a day. I use my bike to ride to and from the PATH every single day and the ONLY safe place for a rider is on the sidewalk. The side streets are too narrow and one open car door and you’re dead. And Washington Street on the street itself is absolutely impossible. Between the buses and the double-parkers, the street simply isn’t wide enough to accommodate everyone. If we can’t even properly accommodate cyclists, I don’t see how Pedicabs, which are even wider, are workable.

85. bartmann81 | April 7th, 2007 at 10:44 am Quote
So Sah what you are saying is they should ban all bike riding in Hoboken , and that because people who break the law and double park should continue to take up the space that potentially can bring and alternative transportation service to Hoboken. Ok your point is well made.

86. bartmann81 | April 7th, 2007 at 10:47 am Quote
Ps so because all the other elements in the city of Hoboken are unsafe that gives the town the right to ban something that has nothing but a safe record. Thankyou for being another person in this forum for reinforcing all the negatives that Hoboken has continued to allow over the years.

87. Cartman | April 7th, 2007 at 12:19 pm Quote
You are forgetting the real point is. Has the streets reached max usage? Maybe tear some buildings down to make more parking lots. So….. all the businesses can’t have any more people to at their restaurants, stores, offices because there is to many cars, no parking, no pedicabs, and it’s just way too unsafe…… Just fold up your downtown tear down all the buildings that make it special, and build strip malls with only drive-ups.

Is that a hole in your foot?

Wake up City and think who do you serve the people and the stores, restaurants and the businesses? Pedicabs WILL add to what makes you special and WILL bring people. Maybe there be less cars, more business and more tax for the city to do good things to make better to live and shop there. Block off the narrow streets that are unsafe, plant trees, get pedicabs, and make it a walking mall like forward thinking cities are doing.

Get out of your CAR.

I bet you are some of the same people who complain at gas at over three a gallon. To much pollution too. You must be a urban planner from the 70’s. MORE cars wider highways, more strip malls, teardown the old buildings and build shopping centers. It does NOT work. I bet you want a Wal-Mart too…

88. mshellhbkn | April 7th, 2007 at 1:16 pm Quote
HELLO MR. HOBOKEN411
DO YOU REALIZE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? PRECISELY EVEN MORE REASON TO PERMIT THESE BICYCLES. YOU AND MOST OTHERS IN HERE CONTINUE TO EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT ” THE SIDE STREETS ARE TO NARROW FOR THESE BIKES AND IT WILL SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC. SO BASICALLY ITS PERFECT. AS A COMMUNITY WE SHOULD NOT PROMOTE FAST DRIVING OR SPEEDING ON THOSE BLOCKS . PEDICABS WILL ENSURE THAT THE TRAFFIC IS KEPT AT AN APPROPRIATE FLOW . I KNOW I WOULD FEEL A WHOLE LOT SAFER KNOWING THAT ON A FEW BLOCKS, A FEW TIMES A DAY THAT BECAUSE OF THE FEW BIKES THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO BRING TO OUR CITY THAT OUR STREETS WILL BE THAT MUCH SAFER. I MEAN ARE YOU SAYING WE SHOULD ALLOW THOSE NARROW BLOCKS TO BE EMPTY SO THAT AUTOMOBILES AND TAXIS ALIKE CAN REACH OPTIMUM SPEED ENDANGERING OUR CHILDREN AND OUR ELDERS . MY FATHER WHO HAS LIVED IN HOBOKEN FOR 59 YEARS USED TO WALK TO CARLOS BAKERY REGULARY AND USED TO WALK TO THE PARK AND NOW BECAUSE HE HAS A HARD TIME WALKING DUE TO ARTHRITIS HE SAID HE WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET A FREE RIDE TO THE PARK.

89. hbknkid | April 7th, 2007 at 1:21 pm Quote
Get a load of this. This is direct news coming from the council. Hoboken is far to congested to permit a 48 inch wide bike on its street , but there not to congested to sell 5 to 10 more taxi medallions that cost hundred of thousands of dollars. Now this is starting to make sense.
Something to ponder.

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